Aerostar again

[Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney]

Pulling to the right hard. Tire pressure OK. Lugs all tight. Nothing obviously loose underneath. Bushings look good. Any ideas what to check before I head to the mechanic?

I took it to 2 general mechanics I have used. First one is not set up for alignment but put it up and looked it over. The only think he saw was a possible leaking left ball joint. Took to another general mechanic - also not set up for alignment. (I thought both of them were...) He said nothing looked obviously wrong, brakes not binding, recommended an alignment.

Went to the tire place I use, did an alignment and this is the before and after....
Before alignment (all 3 should be the same photo)
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http://tinypic.com/r/rcmp84/8
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After alignment (all 4 should be the same)
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http://tinypic.com/r/r762wy/8
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r762wy&s=8#.VXpXSFJikk4
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When I drove out, the car pulled just as much to the right as when I drove in. Turned around. Mechanic said the front right tire was were worn on the outside and was causing it to be pulled. Also had lubed it and said specifically that the ball joints and bushings were all fine.

I do need 2 new tires, but surprised that the pulling happened suddenly due to a worn tire....

So my question is..... is the report in these photos show it is was way out of alignment or just a little -- enough to cause the wear?

Thanks, felllers.

[Steve W.]

Post by Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney

Pulling to the right hard. Tire pressure OK. Lugs all tight.
Nothing obviously loose underneath. Bushings look good. Any ideas
what to check before I head to the mechanic?

I took it to 2 general mechanics I have used. First one is not set
up for alignment but put it up and looked it over. The only think he
saw was a possible leaking left ball joint. Took to another general
mechanic - also not set up for alignment. (I thought both of them
were...) He said nothing looked obviously wrong, brakes not binding,
recommended an alignment.
Went to the tire place I use, did an alignment and this is the before
and after.... Before alignment (all 3 should be the same photo)
http://i59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.gif http://tinypic.com/r/rcmp84/8
http://oi59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.jpg
After alignment (all 4 should be the same)
http://i59.tinypic.com/r762wy.gif http://tinypic.com/r/r762wy/8
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r762wy&s=8#.VXpXSFJikk4
http://oi59.tinypic.com/r762wy.jpg
When I drove out, the car pulled just as much to the right as when I
drove in. Turned around. Mechanic said the front right tire was
were worn on the outside and was causing it to be pulled. Also had
lubed it and said specifically that the ball joints and bushings were
all fine.
I do need 2 new tires, but surprised that the pulling happened
suddenly due to a worn tire....
So my question is..... is the report in these photos show it is was
way out of alignment or just a little -- enough to cause the wear?
Thanks, felllers.

If it started suddenly I would suspect a damaged tire, either from
hitting a pothole or similar causing a belt failure in the tire. That
could cause a pull.

As for the numbers. The caster angles should match on that vehicle. When
they don't it can cause a pull. 1/2 a degree difference is enough to
cause issues and you have over that. With more on the right side.

[Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney]

Post by Steve W.

Post by Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney

Pulling to the right hard. Tire pressure OK. Lugs all tight.
Nothing obviously loose underneath. Bushings look good. Any ideas
what to check before I head to the mechanic?

I took it to 2 general mechanics I have used. First one is not set
up for alignment but put it up and looked it over. The only think he
saw was a possible leaking left ball joint. Took to another general
mechanic - also not set up for alignment. (I thought both of them
were...) He said nothing looked obviously wrong, brakes not binding,
recommended an alignment.
Went to the tire place I use, did an alignment and this is the before
and after.... Before alignment (all 3 should be the same photo)
http://i59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.gif http://tinypic.com/r/rcmp84/8
http://oi59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.jpg
After alignment (all 4 should be the same)
http://i59.tinypic.com/r762wy.gif http://tinypic.com/r/r762wy/8
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r762wy&s=8#.VXpXSFJikk4
http://oi59.tinypic.com/r762wy.jpg
When I drove out, the car pulled just as much to the right as when I
drove in. Turned around. Mechanic said the front right tire was
were worn on the outside and was causing it to be pulled. Also had
lubed it and said specifically that the ball joints and bushings were
all fine.
I do need 2 new tires, but surprised that the pulling happened
suddenly due to a worn tire....
So my question is..... is the report in these photos show it is was
way out of alignment or just a little -- enough to cause the wear?
Thanks, felllers.

If it started suddenly I would suspect a damaged tire, either from
hitting a pothole or similar causing a belt failure in the tire. That
could cause a pull.
As for the numbers. The caster angles should match on that vehicle. When
they don't it can cause a pull. 1/2 a degree difference is enough to
cause issues and you have over that. With more on the right side.
--
Steve W.

Thanks Steve. Looking at the caster, before alignment it was 3.0 left and 3.7 right. After alignment it was 2.9 left and 3.6 right. Does that mean alignment needs to be done again?

The right front tow was -.15 before alignment and +0.03 after. That makes sense to me because the front right tire was worn quite a bit on the outside.

The rear toe before align was -.13 left and -.07 right. After align was -.24 left and +0.17 right. Is that also something to have corrected?

[Terry Coombs]

Post by Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney

Post by Steve W.

Post by Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney

Pulling to the right hard. Tire pressure OK. Lugs all tight.
Nothing obviously loose underneath. Bushings look good. Any ideas
what to check before I head to the mechanic?

I took it to 2 general mechanics I have used. First one is not set
up for alignment but put it up and looked it over. The only think
he saw was a possible leaking left ball joint. Took to another
general mechanic - also not set up for alignment. (I thought both
of them were...) He said nothing looked obviously wrong, brakes
not binding, recommended an alignment.
Went to the tire place I use, did an alignment and this is the
before and after.... Before alignment (all 3 should be the same
photo) http://i59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.gif
http://tinypic.com/r/rcmp84/8 http://oi59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.jpg
After alignment (all 4 should be the same)
http://i59.tinypic.com/r762wy.gif http://tinypic.com/r/r762wy/8
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r762wy&s=8#.VXpXSFJikk4
http://oi59.tinypic.com/r762wy.jpg
When I drove out, the car pulled just as much to the right as when I
drove in. Turned around. Mechanic said the front right tire was
were worn on the outside and was causing it to be pulled. Also had
lubed it and said specifically that the ball joints and bushings
were all fine.
I do need 2 new tires, but surprised that the pulling happened
suddenly due to a worn tire....
So my question is..... is the report in these photos show it is was
way out of alignment or just a little -- enough to cause the wear?
Thanks, felllers.

If it started suddenly I would suspect a damaged tire, either from
hitting a pothole or similar causing a belt failure in the tire. That
could cause a pull.
As for the numbers. The caster angles should match on that vehicle.
When they don't it can cause a pull. 1/2 a degree difference is
enough to cause issues and you have over that. With more on the
right side.
--
Steve W.

Thanks Steve. Looking at the caster, before alignment it was 3.0
left and 3.7 right. After alignment it was 2.9 left and 3.6 right.
Does that mean alignment needs to be done again?
The right front tow was -.15 before alignment and +0.03 after. That
makes sense to me because the front right tire was worn quite a bit
on the outside.
The rear toe before align was -.13 left and -.07 right. After align
was -.24 left and +0.17 right. Is that also something to have
corrected?

Sounds like your mechanic un-aligned it . Both sides ahould be very close
to each other , I'd be demanding they redo it and do it right or give me
back my money . I don't know about where you live , but here all 3 dealers
have the proper equipment , and none charges all that much - compared to
tires at $150 each .

[Steve W.]

Post by Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney

Post by Steve W.

"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney"

Pulling to the right hard. Tire pressure OK. Lugs all tight.
Nothing obviously loose underneath. Bushings look good. Any
ideas what to check before I head to the mechanic?

I took it to 2 general mechanics I have used. First one is not
set up for alignment but put it up and looked it over. The only
think he saw was a possible leaking left ball joint. Took to
another general mechanic - also not set up for alignment. (I
thought both of them were...) He said nothing looked obviously
wrong, brakes not binding, recommended an alignment.
Went to the tire place I use, did an alignment and this is the
before and after.... Before alignment (all 3 should be the same
photo) http://i59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.gif
http://tinypic.com/r/rcmp84/8 http://oi59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.jpg
After alignment (all 4 should be the same)
http://i59.tinypic.com/r762wy.gif http://tinypic.com/r/r762wy/8
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r762wy&s=8#.VXpXSFJikk4
http://oi59.tinypic.com/r762wy.jpg
When I drove out, the car pulled just as much to the right as
when I drove in. Turned around. Mechanic said the front right
tire was were worn on the outside and was causing it to be
pulled. Also had lubed it and said specifically that the ball
joints and bushings were all fine.
I do need 2 new tires, but surprised that the pulling happened
suddenly due to a worn tire....
So my question is..... is the report in these photos show it is
was way out of alignment or just a little -- enough to cause the
wear?
Thanks, felllers.

If it started suddenly I would suspect a damaged tire, either from
hitting a pothole or similar causing a belt failure in the tire.
That could cause a pull.
As for the numbers. The caster angles should match on that vehicle.
When they don't it can cause a pull. 1/2 a degree difference is
enough to cause issues and you have over that. With more on the
right side.
-- Steve W.

Thanks Steve. Looking at the caster, before alignment it was 3.0
left and 3.7 right. After alignment it was 2.9 left and 3.6 right.
Does that mean alignment needs to be done again?
The right front tow was -.15 before alignment and +0.03 after. That
makes sense to me because the front right tire was worn quite a bit
on the outside.
The rear toe before align was -.13 left and -.07 right. After align
was -.24 left and +0.17 right. Is that also something to have
corrected?

Specs I have for the Aerostar

Front Toe Total - Min. 0 Max. .12
Front Toe L & R - Min. 0 Max. .06
Camber L & R - Min. -.5 Max .5
Caster L & R - Min. 3.8 Max 5.8

Rear shows 0 on all numbers.

[Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney]

Post by Steve W.

Post by Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney

Post by Steve W.

"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney"

Pulling to the right hard. Tire pressure OK. Lugs all tight.
Nothing obviously loose underneath. Bushings look good. Any
ideas what to check before I head to the mechanic?

I took it to 2 general mechanics I have used. First one is not
set up for alignment but put it up and looked it over. The only
think he saw was a possible leaking left ball joint. Took to
another general mechanic - also not set up for alignment. (I
thought both of them were...) He said nothing looked obviously
wrong, brakes not binding, recommended an alignment.
Went to the tire place I use, did an alignment and this is the
before and after.... Before alignment (all 3 should be the same
photo) http://i59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.gif
http://tinypic.com/r/rcmp84/8 http://oi59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.jpg
After alignment (all 4 should be the same)
http://i59.tinypic.com/r762wy.gif http://tinypic.com/r/r762wy/8
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r762wy&s=8#.VXpXSFJikk4
http://oi59.tinypic.com/r762wy.jpg
When I drove out, the car pulled just as much to the right as
when I drove in. Turned around. Mechanic said the front right
tire was were worn on the outside and was causing it to be
pulled. Also had lubed it and said specifically that the ball
joints and bushings were all fine.
I do need 2 new tires, but surprised that the pulling happened
suddenly due to a worn tire....
So my question is..... is the report in these photos show it is
was way out of alignment or just a little -- enough to cause the
wear?
Thanks, felllers.

If it started suddenly I would suspect a damaged tire, either from
hitting a pothole or similar causing a belt failure in the tire.
That could cause a pull.
As for the numbers. The caster angles should match on that vehicle.
When they don't it can cause a pull. 1/2 a degree difference is
enough to cause issues and you have over that. With more on the
right side.
-- Steve W.

Thanks Steve. Looking at the caster, before alignment it was 3.0
left and 3.7 right. After alignment it was 2.9 left and 3.6 right.
Does that mean alignment needs to be done again?
The right front tow was -.15 before alignment and +0.03 after. That
makes sense to me because the front right tire was worn quite a bit
on the outside.
The rear toe before align was -.13 left and -.07 right. After align
was -.24 left and +0.17 right. Is that also something to have
corrected?

Specs I have for the Aerostar
Front Toe Total - Min. 0 Max. .12
Front Toe L & R - Min. 0 Max. .06
Camber L & R - Min. -.5 Max .5
Caster L & R - Min. 3.8 Max 5.8
Rear shows 0 on all numbers.
--
Steve W.

Thanks Steve. Good specs - tighter than Ford or the tire dealer. Here's what I got from the Ford dealer. Looks like tire dealer needs to adjust the toe closer to mid-range

Toe Total - Min. -.2 Max. +.32
Toe: 0.06 plus/minus 0.26
Camber: +0.25 plus/minus 0.5
Caster: +4 plus/minus 2

[Steve W.]

Post by Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney

Post by Steve W.

Post by Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney

Post by Steve W.

"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney"

Pulling to the right hard. Tire pressure OK. Lugs all
tight. Nothing obviously loose underneath. Bushings look
good. Any ideas what to check before I head to the
mechanic?

I took it to 2 general mechanics I have used. First one is
not set up for alignment but put it up and looked it over.
The only think he saw was a possible leaking left ball joint.
Took to another general mechanic - also not set up for
alignment. (I thought both of them were...) He said nothing
looked obviously wrong, brakes not binding, recommended an
alignment.
Went to the tire place I use, did an alignment and this is
the before and after.... Before alignment (all 3 should be
the same photo) http://i59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.gif
http://tinypic.com/r/rcmp84/8
http://oi59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.jpg
After alignment (all 4 should be the same)
http://i59.tinypic.com/r762wy.gif
http://tinypic.com/r/r762wy/8
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r762wy&s=8#.VXpXSFJikk4
http://oi59.tinypic.com/r762wy.jpg
When I drove out, the car pulled just as much to the right as
when I drove in. Turned around. Mechanic said the front
right tire was were worn on the outside and was causing it to
be pulled. Also had lubed it and said specifically that the
ball joints and bushings were all fine.
I do need 2 new tires, but surprised that the pulling
happened suddenly due to a worn tire....
So my question is..... is the report in these photos show it
is was way out of alignment or just a little -- enough to
cause the wear?
Thanks, felllers.

If it started suddenly I would suspect a damaged tire, either
from hitting a pothole or similar causing a belt failure in the
tire. That could cause a pull.
As for the numbers. The caster angles should match on that
vehicle. When they don't it can cause a pull. 1/2 a degree
difference is enough to cause issues and you have over that.
With more on the right side.
-- Steve W.

Thanks Steve. Looking at the caster, before alignment it was 3.0
left and 3.7 right. After alignment it was 2.9 left and 3.6
right. Does that mean alignment needs to be done again?
The right front tow was -.15 before alignment and +0.03 after.
That makes sense to me because the front right tire was worn
quite a bit on the outside.
The rear toe before align was -.13 left and -.07 right. After
align was -.24 left and +0.17 right. Is that also something to
have corrected?

Specs I have for the Aerostar
Front Toe Total - Min. 0 Max. .12 Front Toe L & R - Min. 0 Max. .06
Camber L & R - Min. -.5 Max .5 Caster L & R - Min. 3.8 Max 5.8
Rear shows 0 on all numbers.
-- Steve W.

Thanks Steve. Good specs - tighter than Ford or the tire dealer.
Here's what I got from the Ford dealer. Looks like tire dealer needs
to adjust the toe closer to mid-range
+0.25 plus/minus 0.5 Caster: +4 plus/minus 2

Mine are from my Hunter bench.

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 00:17:03 -0700, "Snuffy \"Hub Cap\" McKinney"

Post by Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney

Post by Steve W.

Post by Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney

Pulling to the right hard. Tire pressure OK. Lugs all tight.
Nothing obviously loose underneath. Bushings look good. Any ideas
what to check before I head to the mechanic?

I took it to 2 general mechanics I have used. First one is not set
up for alignment but put it up and looked it over. The only think he
saw was a possible leaking left ball joint. Took to another general
mechanic - also not set up for alignment. (I thought both of them
were...) He said nothing looked obviously wrong, brakes not binding,
recommended an alignment.
Went to the tire place I use, did an alignment and this is the before
and after.... Before alignment (all 3 should be the same photo)
http://i59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.gif http://tinypic.com/r/rcmp84/8
http://oi59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.jpg
After alignment (all 4 should be the same)
http://i59.tinypic.com/r762wy.gif http://tinypic.com/r/r762wy/8
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r762wy&s=8#.VXpXSFJikk4
http://oi59.tinypic.com/r762wy.jpg
When I drove out, the car pulled just as much to the right as when I
drove in. Turned around. Mechanic said the front right tire was
were worn on the outside and was causing it to be pulled. Also had
lubed it and said specifically that the ball joints and bushings were
all fine.
I do need 2 new tires, but surprised that the pulling happened
suddenly due to a worn tire....
So my question is..... is the report in these photos show it is was
way out of alignment or just a little -- enough to cause the wear?
Thanks, felllers.

If it started suddenly I would suspect a damaged tire, either from
hitting a pothole or similar causing a belt failure in the tire. That
could cause a pull.
As for the numbers. The caster angles should match on that vehicle. When
they don't it can cause a pull. 1/2 a degree difference is enough to
cause issues and you have over that. With more on the right side.
--
Steve W.

Thanks Steve. Looking at the caster, before alignment it was 3.0 left and 3.7 right. After alignment it was 2.9 left and 3.6 right. Does that mean alignment needs to be done again?

It needs to be done, period. He didn't accomplish anything as far as
the caster is concerned.

Post by Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
The right front tow was -.15 before alignment and +0.03 after. That makes sense to me because the front right tire was worn quite a bit on the outside

. He made an iprovement on the front tow

Post by Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
The rear toe before align was -.13 left and -.07 right. After align was -.24 left and +0.17 right. Is that also something to have corrected?

You have a solid axle. There is no way to adjust rear toe, but the
truck is "dog-tracking". The aerostar has a 4 link coil suspension - a
bent component or worn bushing can allow the axle to shift back on one
side or forward on the other - causing the "dog track" If there is a
significant amount of actual toe in or toe out on a solid axle you
have a bent differential housing or axle tube.

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

Post by Steve W.

Post by Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney

Pulling to the right hard. Tire pressure OK. Lugs all tight.
Nothing obviously loose underneath. Bushings look good. Any ideas
what to check before I head to the mechanic?

I took it to 2 general mechanics I have used. First one is not set
up for alignment but put it up and looked it over. The only think he
saw was a possible leaking left ball joint. Took to another general
mechanic - also not set up for alignment. (I thought both of them
were...) He said nothing looked obviously wrong, brakes not binding,
recommended an alignment.
Went to the tire place I use, did an alignment and this is the before
and after.... Before alignment (all 3 should be the same photo)
http://i59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.gif http://tinypic.com/r/rcmp84/8
http://oi59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.jpg
After alignment (all 4 should be the same)
http://i59.tinypic.com/r762wy.gif http://tinypic.com/r/r762wy/8
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r762wy&s=8#.VXpXSFJikk4
http://oi59.tinypic.com/r762wy.jpg
When I drove out, the car pulled just as much to the right as when I
drove in. Turned around. Mechanic said the front right tire was
were worn on the outside and was causing it to be pulled. Also had
lubed it and said specifically that the ball joints and bushings were
all fine.
I do need 2 new tires, but surprised that the pulling happened
suddenly due to a worn tire....
So my question is..... is the report in these photos show it is was
way out of alignment or just a little -- enough to cause the wear?
Thanks, felllers.

If it started suddenly I would suspect a damaged tire, either from
hitting a pothole or similar causing a belt failure in the tire. That
could cause a pull.
As for the numbers. The caster angles should match on that vehicle. When
they don't it can cause a pull. 1/2 a degree difference is enough to
cause issues and you have over that. With more on the right side.

I'd say find a real mechanic, and a real alignment man. The caster
should be between 2.5 and 4.5 degrees - and within 1/4 degree right to
left. The camber should be between +.8 and -.8 degrees, and within
1/4 degree between sides.

The clown that did your "alignment" is a hack.

If the tire is the cause of the pull it will pull the other way if you
switch tires right to left, and the pull will dissapear if you switch
front to back (the first thing to do when diagnosing a pull, by the
way)

[David L. Martel]

Snuffy,

Swap front with rear tires to eliminate the "wear" hypothesis.

Dave M.

[Kevin Bottorff]

Post by David L. Martel
Snuffy,
Swap front with rear tires to eliminate the "wear" hypothesis.
Dave M.

swap the front 2 side to side and if the pull switches sides, its the
tires. pretty simple. KB

[c***@cam.com]

I had a problem similiar with a GMC Savana. Did alignments, replace
steering box, swap wheels, all on warranty, all to no success.

My daughter borrowed it for a couple of snowy days, lost control and
head on into a boulder.

The steering wheel was sideways, the hood in bungy cords, but it
drove fine and no more pulling to the left.

After the $9000 repair, is still running straight. Go figure.





On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 17:58:14 +0000 (UTC), Kevin Bottorff

Post by Kevin Bottorff

Post by David L. Martel
Snuffy,
Swap front with rear tires to eliminate the "wear" hypothesis.
Dave M.

swap the front 2 side to side and if the pull switches sides, its the
tires. pretty simple. KB

[Stormin Mormon]

On 6/18/2015 1:11 AM, ***@cam.com wrote:


How did we get a binary (picture) on three text
only lists?

-
.
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learn more about Jesus
. www.lds.org
.
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[Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney]

Post by Stormin Mormon
How did we get a binary (picture) on three text
only lists?
-
.
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
. www.lds.org

No binaries were posted on the newsgroups. Links given to photos:

Before alignment (all 3 should be the same photo)
http://i59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.gif
http://tinypic.com/r/rcmp84/8
http://oi59.tinypic.com/rcmp84.jpg

After alignment (all 4 should be the same)
http://i59.tinypic.com/r762wy.gif
http://tinypic.com/r/r762wy/8
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r762wy&s=8#.VXpXSFJikk4
http://oi59.tinypic.com/r762wy.jpg

[Evan Platt]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:49:58 -0700, "Snuffy \"Hub Cap\" McKinney"
Yes, they were.

Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>

[Ed Pawlowski]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 06:00:02 -0700, Evan Platt

Post by Evan Platt
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:49:58 -0700, "Snuffy \"Hub Cap\" McKinney"
Yes, they were.

Most groups do not allow them and strip them out. None seen here.

[Oren]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 06:00:02 -0700, Evan Platt

Post by Evan Platt
Yes, they were.

Show me a binary in AHR. Come back when you see you are not accurate.

[Evan Platt]

Post by Ed Pawlowski
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 06:00:02 -0700, Evan Platt

Post by Evan Platt
Yes, they were.

Show me a binary in AHR. Come back when you see you are not accurate.

I'm looking at it.

I provided you the message ID.

It shows on my server.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Post by Evan Platt

Post by Ed Pawlowski
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 06:00:02 -0700, Evan Platt

Post by Evan Platt
Yes, they were.

Show me a binary in AHR. Come back when you see you are not accurate.

I'm looking at it.
I provided you the message ID.
It shows on my server.

Not on mine. You must be special.

[Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney]

Post by Evan Platt

Post by Ed Pawlowski
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 06:00:02 -0700, Evan Platt

Post by Evan Platt
Yes, they were.

Show me a binary in AHR. Come back when you see you are not accurate.

I'm looking at it.
I provided you the message ID.
It shows on my server.
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To reply via e-mail, remove The Obvious and .invalid from my e-mail address.

Can you repost the offending posting -- not including the binary?

This link does not go to a posting:
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[Oren]

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 10:18:51 -0700, "Snuffy \"Hub Cap\" McKinney"

Post by Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney

Post by Evan Platt

Post by Ed Pawlowski
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 06:00:02 -0700, Evan Platt

Post by Evan Platt
Yes, they were.

Show me a binary in AHR. Come back when you see you are not accurate.

I'm looking at it.
I provided you the message ID.
It shows on my server.
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To reply via e-mail, remove The Obvious and .invalid from my e-mail address.

Can you repost the offending posting -- not including the binary?

A URL to the photo is a better solution in AHR.

[Tekkie®]

Evan Platt posted for all of us...

Post by Evan Platt

Post by Ed Pawlowski
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 06:00:02 -0700, Evan Platt

Post by Evan Platt
Yes, they were.

Show me a binary in AHR. Come back when you see you are not accurate.

I'm looking at it.
I provided you the message ID.
It shows on my server.

With that attitude you are getting ZERO ZIP NADA out of me and probably most
of the others. Put on your big-man pants and post it to a binary group or
picture site like others are telling you.

[Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney]

Post by Evan Platt
Yes, they were.

Must have been from someone I blocked. Blocking is good.

[Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney]

Pulling to the right hard. Tire pressure OK. Lugs all tight. Nothing obviously loose underneath. Bushings look good. Any ideas what to check before I head to the mechanic?

Finally got to the root cause. Worn tire - possibly steel belts moving inside....

Took to local corporate chain shop. Long time people there and I have had good luck so far.

Asked to TS why pulling to one side. Checked alignment and it was off. I said go ahead with alignment. Picked up car, drove 40 feet and no change. Turned around. Explanation was that front tire was badly worn. Had them switch right & left. Now pulled to the right. Tire is the problem.

Nothing lost - it was out of alignment and had to get that done before putting new tires on. But disappointed they didn't test drive it or swap the tires the first time I took it in.

Tire on sale is $59 -- plus another $45 for everything else.

[Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney]

6-24-15

Pulling to the right hard. Tire pressure OK. Lugs all tight. Nothing obviously loose underneath. Bushings look good. Any ideas what to check before I head to the mechanic?

Finally got to the root cause. Worn tire - possibly steel belts moving inside....

Took to local corporate chain shop. Long time people there and I have had good luck so far.

Asked to TS why pulling to one side. Checked alignment and it was off. I said go ahead with alignment. Picked up car, drove 40 feet and no change. Turned around. Explanation was that front tire was badly worn. Had them switch right & left. Now pulled to the right. Tire is the problem.

Nothing lost - it was out of alignment and had to get that done before putting new tires on. But disappointed they didn't test drive it or swap the tires the first time I took it in.

Tire on sale is $59 -- plus another $45 for everything else.

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8-26-15
I think I posted in another thread, but I replaced the 2 front tires and all is well. Got both for $171 total including serv, fees, tax. Abandoned the old chain store -- too salesy and alignment took 2 trips and still just barely within specs on camber.