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Aircraft Are Big Air Polluters and Go Unchallenged - read.905.ew
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e***@gmail.com
2012-11-17 17:29:52 UTC
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57,585 US gallons of fuel on a 747 for a 13.5 hour trip

That would be approximately 5,758 automobile engines running all day at top speed

380 trans pacific flights per day

That would be 2,188,040 automobile engines running all day at top speed

So who is the most invisible air polluter in the world today? everyday?

*Statistics from: *Airlines for America, *Flyer Talk Forum, *Professional Pilots Rumor Forum
Jim_Higgins
2012-11-17 18:13:13 UTC
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57,585 US gallons of fuel on a 747 for a 13.5 hour trip
That would be approximately 5,758 automobile engines running all day at top speed
380 trans pacific flights per day
That would be 2,188,040 automobile engines running all day at top speed
So who is the most invisible air polluter in the world today? everyday?
*Statistics from: *Airlines for America, *Flyer Talk Forum, *Professional Pilots Rumor Forum
Try driving to the Far East-even an Amphi Car wouldn't make it.

Get a life
PeterD
2012-11-17 19:34:03 UTC
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57,585 US gallons of fuel on a 747 for a 13.5 hour trip
That would be approximately 5,758 automobile engines running all day at top speed
380 trans pacific flights per day
That would be 2,188,040 automobile engines running all day at top speed
So who is the most invisible air polluter in the world today? everyday?
*Statistics from: *Airlines for America, *Flyer Talk Forum,
*Professional Pilots Rumor Forum
Try driving to the Far East-even an Amphi Car wouldn't make it.
Get a life
But Google Maps said I could do it in a canoe. You mean they lied to me?
I'm heart broken...

Personally I think we should eliminate all forms of motorized
transportation, require all products be produced locally, allow travel
only by foot or bicycle (or pedi-cab) and don't allow animal power
transportation either. No way do I want to wade through horse shit. Oh,
wait, this thread has the capability to degenerate into horse pucky at
an moment! <yea>
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I'm never going to grow up.
Ashton Crusher
2012-11-18 01:16:13 UTC
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Post by e***@gmail.com
57,585 US gallons of fuel on a 747 for a 13.5 hour trip
That would be approximately 5,758 automobile engines running all day at top speed
380 trans pacific flights per day
That would be 2,188,040 automobile engines running all day at top speed
So who is the most invisible air polluter in the world today? everyday?
*Statistics from: *Airlines for America, *Flyer Talk Forum, *Professional Pilots Rumor Forum
From Wikiepedia

Some climate scientists have theorized that aircraft contrails (also
called vapor trails) are implicated in global dimming, but the
constant flow of air traffic previously meant that this could not be
tested. The near-total shutdown of civil air traffic during the three
days following the September 11, 2001 attacks afforded a unique
opportunity in which to observe the climate of the United States
absent from the effect of contrails. During this period, an increase
in diurnal temperature variation of over 1 °C (1.8 °F) was observed in
some parts of the U.S., i.e. aircraft contrails may have been raising
nighttime temperatures and/or lowering daytime temperatures by much
more than previously thought.[26]
Vic Smith
2012-11-18 01:36:11 UTC
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Post by e***@gmail.com
57,585 US gallons of fuel on a 747 for a 13.5 hour trip
That would be approximately 5,758 automobile engines running all day at top speed
380 trans pacific flights per day
That would be 2,188,040 automobile engines running all day at top speed
So who is the most invisible air polluter in the world today? everyday?
*Statistics from: *Airlines for America, *Flyer Talk Forum, *Professional Pilots Rumor Forum
From Wikiepedia
Some climate scientists have theorized that aircraft contrails (also
called vapor trails) are implicated in global dimming, but the
constant flow of air traffic previously meant that this could not be
tested. The near-total shutdown of civil air traffic during the three
days following the September 11, 2001 attacks afforded a unique
opportunity in which to observe the climate of the United States
absent from the effect of contrails. During this period, an increase
in diurnal temperature variation of over 1 °C (1.8 °F) was observed in
some parts of the U.S., i.e. aircraft contrails may have been raising
nighttime temperatures and/or lowering daytime temperatures by much
more than previously thought.[26]
Probably "not enough data." But I believe aircraft are major
polluters. Always have. You can smell them quite a distance from an
airport. Multiply the above by actual flights including all aircraft.
I was working near a major O'Hare flight path on 9-11.
Every couple hours I'd be outside for a smoke.
It was eerie with no aircraft. Real quiet too.
Bill
2012-11-18 15:40:35 UTC
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57,585 US gallons of fuel on a 747 for a 13.5 hour trip
That would be approximately 5,758 automobile engines running all day at top speed
380 trans pacific flights per day...
So what do you suggest be done about this?
g***@gmail.com
2012-11-18 16:10:31 UTC
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57,585 US gallons of fuel on a 747 for a 13.5 hour trip
That would be approximately 5,758 automobile engines running all day at top speed
380 trans pacific flights per day...
So what do you suggest be done about this?
The changes are slowly happening.

The prices will continue to go up and they will define what kind of transport will be used.

The cars go electric.

The trains take over many long distances from the planes.

It is not a question of if just how and when.

The prices are just about to go over a fiscal cliff.
e***@gmail.com
2012-12-16 02:00:00 UTC
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Post by Bill
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57,585 US gallons of fuel on a 747 for a 13.5 hour trip
That would be approximately 5,758 automobile engines running all day at top speed
380 trans pacific flights per day...
So what do you suggest be done about this?
More fuel efficient engines, with higher thrust output using less fuel would be a start. Like overdrive in a car, larger fan blades in an aircraft engine.
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