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need help identifying a GM rear end
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rking
2004-08-09 16:49:08 UTC
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I'm working on a 37 chevy project that I bought about 50% done. I need to
identify the rear end and gear ratio to make sure it will be geared right
for the 4-speed I will use. It is a 10 bolt rear end. there are no numbers
on the axle tubes but the carrier has GM71 on the front passenger side and
the numbers 3969340 NF on the front driver side. I tried to determine the
gear ratio but I'm not sure I did it correctly. I marked the pinion and the
tire. blocked one tire and turned the other one 10 times; the yoke only
turned 13 times. seems to be very high geared but I'm probably not doing it
correctly. I would appreciate any help.

thanks,

Tony
David J and Lynne J Shepherd
2004-08-09 23:26:53 UTC
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Best way here is to take the cover off and it should have a stamping on the
ring gear like 11-37, divide the 11 into the 37 for the ratio, and check the
condition while you are in there.
Post by rking
I'm working on a 37 chevy project that I bought about 50% done. I need to
identify the rear end and gear ratio to make sure it will be geared right
for the 4-speed I will use. It is a 10 bolt rear end. there are no numbers
on the axle tubes but the carrier has GM71 on the front passenger side and
the numbers 3969340 NF on the front driver side. I tried to determine the
gear ratio but I'm not sure I did it correctly. I marked the pinion and the
tire. blocked one tire and turned the other one 10 times; the yoke only
turned 13 times. seems to be very high geared but I'm probably not doing it
correctly. I would appreciate any help.
thanks,
Tony
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Troy
2024-05-27 18:45:03 UTC
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I have a 12 bolt Chevy c-10 rear end with numbers on it nd gm 60
What size gears is in this rear en
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SBlackfoot
2004-08-10 06:57:41 UTC
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Post by rking
I marked the pinion and the
tire. blocked one tire and turned the other one 10 times; the yoke only
turned 13 times. seems to be very high geared but I'm probably not doing it
correctly.
You need to get both tires off of the ground and see how many times you have
to spin the yoke to turn both wheels one complete revolution.

Or take the cover off and look for stampings. Failing that, just count the
teeth.
Charles Bendig
2004-08-12 00:05:47 UTC
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Post by rking
I'm working on a 37 chevy project that I bought about 50% done. I need to
identify the rear end and gear ratio to make sure it will be geared right
for the 4-speed I will use. It is a 10 bolt rear end. there are no numbers
on the axle tubes but the carrier has GM71 on the front passenger side and
the numbers 3969340 NF on the front driver side. I tried to determine the
gear ratio but I'm not sure I did it correctly. I marked the pinion and the
tire. blocked one tire and turned the other one 10 times; the yoke only
turned 13 times. seems to be very high geared but I'm probably not doing it
correctly. I would appreciate any help.
thanks,
Tony
What you will need to cross reference those numbers is: Go to a
salvage yard that has Hollander manuals going back to 1955 (first year of
the 10 bolt). That will tell you what year, make and model of GM 10
bolt you have. Knowing that is important for brakes, gears, axles, and oil
seals.

The way your checking the gear ratio is a ball park measurement.
The correct way is to have both rear wheels off the ground. Then mark the
drivers side drum & brake backing plate. Then work the pinion yoke and oil
seal. Turn the yoke slowly and count the number of revolutions the brake
drum turns. Only turn the yoke one revolution.

10 Bolt Rear ends are still made even now. They come in different
types, and sizes. The first year for them was 1955. So that's almost 50
years of rear end codes to check. Except a 3969 should be a 55 to 1988
number.
Charles
SBlackfoot
2004-08-12 06:28:32 UTC
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Post by Charles Bendig
The way your checking the gear ratio is a ball park measurement.
The correct way is to have both rear wheels off the ground. Then mark the
drivers side drum & brake backing plate. Then work the pinion yoke and oil
seal. Turn the yoke slowly and count the number of revolutions the brake
drum turns. Only turn the yoke one revolution.
Unless this is some bizzare rear end, isn't that process backwards? Turning
the yoke exactly one revolution will turn the axles less than one. You'd
have to turn the wheels one turn, counting the revolutions of the drive yoke
(as previously stated).
Charles Bendig
2004-08-12 07:33:33 UTC
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Post by SBlackfoot
Post by Charles Bendig
The way your checking the gear ratio is a ball park measurement.
The correct way is to have both rear wheels off the ground. Then mark
the
Post by Charles Bendig
drivers side drum & brake backing plate. Then work the pinion yoke and
oil
Post by Charles Bendig
seal. Turn the yoke slowly and count the number of revolutions the brake
drum turns. Only turn the yoke one revolution.
Unless this is some bizzare rear end, isn't that process backwards? Turning
the yoke exactly one revolution will turn the axles less than one. You'd
have to turn the wheels one turn, counting the revolutions of the drive yoke
(as previously stated).
Yup. I made an oopps there. Thanks for catching it.
Charles
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